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byron
15th-July-2007, 12:06
Does anyone know what the admission prises are for next season.I just been on the Telford web site and I see that under 16's is only a pound.I hope that we can see a bit of sense and do something simular and get a few more young one's in the ground.We have to realise thats its parants that have to pay and some just hav'nt got it to spare

SteveW
15th-July-2007, 15:33
Check out the 'similar threads' box at the bottom of the page as this has cropped up before.

byron
15th-July-2007, 18:56
What made me bring the subject of kids up,and by that I mean,say 8 to 11's12's, when observing the crowd at the Stockport game or lack of it,there was hardly any children about,even my friend did'nt bring his lad because he thought £4 was over the top for an 8 year old at a friendly match

darrenw
15th-July-2007, 19:40
Ticket Prices (2007/2008 season):
Adult: £8.00
Adult (Main Stand): £9.50
Child/OAP: £4.50
Child/OAP (Main Stand): £5.50

AFCRob
15th-July-2007, 20:07
Perhaps the club will do all the schools in a ten mile radius and send out free tickets to a couple of schools at a time throughout the course of the season... free... then if when they are redeemed by children going to the game they are given a ticket entitling them to go to any game of their choice (league) for a £1 then perhaps they will be hooked and want to come back more... all free tickets and £1 tickets are only valid with a paying adult?

Would that be a possibility?

Perton Pitman
16th-July-2007, 11:26
For whatever reason, the club seems to be sticking to its guns on this one. You either stump up £50 for the season ticket (on the basis that my kids wouldn't be able to attend evening games, nor would they come to a chilly Saturday afternoon game in February) or you pay £4.50 to attend a single game.

I can't help thinking that the club is missing out on something here as we are no longer staging attractive conference national games and should price for kids accordingly:confused:

abacus
16th-July-2007, 12:28
Kids for £1 not up for discussion is summary of the official line.Pre-season would have been an interesting time to kick start an experimental go at this.We are on doorstep of many resurgant teams and a good start in league and major Cups needed I think otherwise it could be back to square one.

Andy
16th-July-2007, 13:02
The key to this is the quality of football played on the pitch and the atmosphere created in the ground.If both of these are good ,people are more likely to pay the prices asked.If not ,people will choose to spend their time and money elsewhere.
RodH`s comments previously are true and the club have given out a lot of free tickets in the past without them being taken up.This does not mean that they should not continue to do so.Maybe Perton Pitman and Abacus could be given some and encouraged to bring friends.This is the way to improve gates and atmosphere.If we all bring a friend we suddenly double the attendance.This creates a better atmosphere which encourages more people to come and so on.Rods comment about the VAT is valid and maybe we need to be more selective in who receives the free tickets.
We can do nothing about the quality of play on the field or the results but we can all try to encourage others to visit Keys Park.
We can also assist with little jobs around the place to try and keep our superb facilities in A1 condition.
Remember this is our club as much as anyone`s.The more we put in the more we get out.

rodh
16th-July-2007, 16:03
If the club were in the position of AFC Telford and have 3000+ gates on a regular basis then maybe they could look at kids for a quid. The club has tried this before and they still did not come. Those who did were dropped off by the parents & then the parent went home which is defeating the object of the kids for a kid scheme as the club needed the parent to attend to make it viable.Those kids who were left on there own upset the remainder of the crowd as they ran around the place annoying supporters who were trying to watch the game.
In the end it was a cheap child minding operation and I am afraid that in this day of age we are not registered child minders and it is the parents who must be responsible for their children.
If the supporters want a reasonable level of football then it will cost. We are now in the real world where the sugar daddy no longer exists therefore Terry and his team have to source finances and drag every penny from every avenue.In the end it is a stark choice, either support your team or it will die. It is not me being over dramatic but there will be a time when Mr Price will say why do I bother as the people of Hednesford do not appear to care. Last weekends game was a fine example. The club attract the first team of a football League club and only 302 attend with the majority from Stockport!.After expenses, tax, vat etc there will be little left and then some supporters expect the team to be full of highly paid contract players and walk the League. It does not equate and we will not do a Scarborough, at the end of the day we did well to maintain a promotion battle for the majority of last season and with the manager making a number of excellent signing that challenge is expected to continue but with other clubs paying £5000 for a player we have got to face facts that we are not in that league anymore.

A supporter will get behind his/her team through thick and thin and will attend whenever they can. We need those supporters now. Can you offer the club more, what can I do, Can I attend more, Can I help on matchdays or in the week. At our level it is not just about paying your money at the turnstile it is also about being involved.That what makes the club strong everyone pulling in one direction for the benefit of the club.If you do not agree with one subject you do not walk away, you work at it and hope that in time others will see that you may have been right, time may even tell you that you were wrong but in the end you are still at and helping the club flourish. we need to be a club , not individuals, the club has too much of that rubbish in my short time at Keys Park and I can see how it nearly destroyed the club.
I do also appreciate the problems with low income and would like to see the day when the club can offer youngsters a reduction but it is not going to happen in the immediate future.
If the schemes to entice younger supporters had worked they would have been continued as it is they didnt.

If the junior Pitmen ticket is to much in one payment it may be worth having a chat with Terry Brumpton and see if the cost can be spread over two or three months or even post dated cheques.

I have not written this piece in an attempt to upset anyone but i feel in a small way that i have to just say what I am currently feeling about this subject. The harsh economical climate at the end of the day rules the roost. One other example for supporters to consider. The club has for a number of seasons paid a great amount of money for Sky Sports but the majority of supporters prefer to watch at their local pub or social club and as a result the football club is being drained of vital match revenue.The club's management committee could not see over £230-00 a month go to Sky when you could count on one hand the number of supporters who came early to watch the lunchtime game and to also have a social chat and a pint. Supporters only want the results after the game and at half time and Sky Sports News or the BBC Digital service on a saturday afternoon cover this subject well. So with one phone call the club now saves overt £3000 per annum.

abacus
17th-July-2007, 09:59
Success on the pitch and better football will bring the crowds back.Then more initatives like kids for a quid probably on basis that age limit applies with accompanied adult and a phased uplift between say 12 to adult pricing could work.When did we have a season long Kids for a quid ?My memory not as it was!I agree that we all need to promote the idea of bringing others along.Results were there first half of last season but not entertainment value. This time I hope both will be in place and make it easier to involve others.Reading NLP Burscoughs manager mentions likes of Fleetwod Witton Gateshead as main contenders and no mention of Pitmen.That puts things into perspective as Rod says but may be we can improve our league position if goalscoring is put right

Markeg
17th-July-2007, 10:19
There has been alot of talk about kids for a quid, and we have distributed free tickets to local schools. Anybody think the wrong audience may be being targeted? Perhaps targeting the parents to take up these schemes rather than the kids could have a more successful outcome.

byron
17th-July-2007, 11:09
Had to get my oxford graduates hat on to understand that(only a miners son) but your still missing the point a lot of perple hav'nt got the money,9 pounds for 2 kids(ie 9& 10)plus extra's.+ £8 for himself(ie-ME) on a cold monday night is the price of 2 weeks SKY SPORTS 20 odd games

SteveW
17th-July-2007, 11:50
As has been said before, the Chairman makes the decision on admission charges. He puts the money in to finance the club so that is his perogative.

Of course everyone understands the arguments for letting kids in virtually for nothing but if you look at it in cold financial terms you would have to attract nearly five times as many kids to each match to even generate the same revenue that you do now.

As Rod said, in the past this led to parents dropping kids off at the ground and driving away. The result was groups of teenagers wandering around the stadium taking absolutely no interest in the match that was taking place which a lot of supporters found very annoying.

Personally I'd like to see some sort of 'Family Ticket' but it's tricky to operate as it would have to have its own turnstile for accounting purposes. Alternatively maybe some kind of loyalty card that gets stamped at each match on admission and earns a free ticket after a few matches.

There is the Junior Pitmen club of course which gives very cheap admission to youngsters at just over £2 a game so they save a lot of money even if they don't come to every match but it is recognised that its a problem for the supporter that wants to bring his kids to a one-off match or for an away supporter with kids. I think though that no matter where you go and at whatever level of football it will be that type of supporter that always ends up paying top dollar.

abacus
17th-July-2007, 12:25
Steve with accompanied youngsters that would remove one problem.For every new parent attracted by the scheme then the number needed to finance it reduces and would potentially self finance and be profitable.

Perton Pitman
17th-July-2007, 12:34
I think Byron and Mark EG below have hit the nail on the head. I haven't got 17 quid to bring the kids along to a game, but if they did come along I would ensure that (as my dad did with me 30 yrs ago) they would be behaved and hopefully become Pitmen fans themselves one day.

I do understand the harsh economics of today's non-league environment, but I do not feel that I can justify bringing them to games which is a bit of a sad state of affairs in my view. The club should look at winning over future generations - at the moment everything is geared too much towards the short term.

Glyn
18th-July-2007, 12:11
Here's an idea that might be worth considering/nicking

http://www.cammelllairdfc.co.uk/Index.php

"part-season-tickets" for 5 or 10 games to attract those who can't commit to every game

In the same way that Cammell Laird have local League opposition we might try this to entice those whose first priorities lie at Molineux, The Hawthorns, Villa Park or wherever....?

terrymc
18th-July-2007, 18:04
Good spot Glyn, the Cammell Laird scheme looks a good one and just might have possibilities.

cliff edge
18th-July-2007, 20:58
I understand the club already do this type of thing with a seven match ticket book for adults which last season cost £50.Maybe this is the way forward for the juniors but obviously cheaper.

MikeM
18th-July-2007, 21:08
Is there anywhere on the site where these mini, half and full season ticket prices and how/where to get them are detailed?

cliff edge
18th-July-2007, 21:50
Mike.From what I am told,you have to give the club a ring and they will send them to you or you can collect when you are next up for a game.
These have been going for a couple of seasons but they may have not been advertised too well.

abacus
19th-July-2007, 08:09
The Cammell Laird scheme seems to offer up to 50% off all prices. So if everyone of their existing average crowd were to take up the offer and if it was at half price then they would need to double the crowd to break even!How about a simple Kids for £2 scheme accompanied by adults only ..............

byron
20th-July-2007, 14:49
I Read in last nights star that it's only £60 for season ticket for under 12's at the WOLVES

Glyn
11th-August-2007, 06:25
Heard on the radio this morning that West Ham's cheapest (if that's the right word) seat this season is £39

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